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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Sep 3, 2009 6:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

I know several serious fans of the music whose politics might best be labeled libertarian -- all govt is bad, and liberal/leftist governments are the worst because they get more involved in individuals' lives. They're fairly passionate about gun control (evil), taxes (unfortunate at best, but we need a military), and welfare (everyone who can, should stand on their own two feet). Two of these guys are or were committed bikers for most of their youth, thoug not Angels.

Among young people I've met who appreciate the Dead, there are some who think that all government is and must always be fucked up beyond repair, and is best ignored. They might be labelled right-wing/anarchists. A few of these guys survive by dumpster-diving and shoplifting, but they're much more excioted about punk and metal than about the Dead.

Personally, I'm an aging New Lefty whose faith in democracy and the Jeffersonian "people" hasn't wavered much over the decades. The Marxist critique of society still seems pretty accurate to me, though Marxist solutions obviously cause more suffering than they relieve. I still welcome any alternative to the capitalist mainstream, be it local food co-ops, credit unions, or just the compost pile.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Sep 3, 2009 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Most of my friends are further left that I, and I get along with them fine . That the members of the Dead, I always assumed ,held beliefs to the left of me , but that's fine . Through most of their career they have , in their public stance remained tastefully above , and removed from politics . I am sure they have their reasons (Bush), but I think they have recently been seduced by the pull of politics, and compromised their non-political integrity . But, that is their choice.
This has not stopped me from giving them my money for cds , downloads , etc. !
Music is FAR more important to me than any ideological slant .
While dancing to "Scarlet.>Fire", or listening to "Dark Star", it's hard to want to fight anyone ,
Liberals like the Grateful Dead, conservatives NEED the Grateful Dead !

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 3, 2009 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

It funny your right about the deads politic or lack their of, I think above all the dead represent the music most for me. Politics aside there is good and evil. But in order for that to be true you must believe in one before you can believ4 in either. You can have the luxury of believing in heaven and not hell.
I know I'm offending Aetheist but I'm not 'cause in my utopia anybody can be who they want. Freewill ( hey thats a Rush song ) Nevermind

The dead's few foray into politics is one of my fav shows,now I may have this wrong so correct me if I do but the show is 1971-12-14 Ann Arbor and agian if I wrong but I believe the Dead were Playing that date support the town of Ann Arbor after the student council impeached the city govt
and legalized pot grate story if its true. Wsa it the A.R.M movement ? I guess I got some homework and w/ this birthday show 1968-06-19 with a Main Ten, then I better get busy